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Friday, 17 April 2009

Expat Thailand: Making Sense of Thai Visa Rules.


This week I have taken the opportunity to update some early posts that are of interest to Expats or potential expatriates to Thailand. Rules and circumstances in a host country change from time to time so today I want to consolidate and update information on Thai Visas. This will of course be of interest to tourists as well as expatriates.

Tourist Visa's.
Anyone arriving in Thailand using a LAND border from a neighbouring country e.g. Cambodia will only be issued with a 15 day visa. on arrival providing their country of origin is on the list for such visa's.Actually Visa on arrival is not the correct term since it is a permission to stay without a visa that you are granted, but I use the term VOA because that's how most folk refer to it. Persons arriving by air will are entitled to a 30 day visa on arrival as will people who hold Malaysian passports which ever way they arrive.

Type O and B Visas.
There are several other types of Visa, the most popular being O and B visas must be obtained before travel from a Thai Embassy or Consulate, I used the Thai Consulate at Hull in the UK, very efficient and friendly.

O visas are primarily used by retirees or long term stayers who may wish to retire here. But can be used if you are seeking work.They come in two forms multi or single entry.
Both types require you to exit the country every 90days. With a multi entry visa it is possible to stay in the country for 15 months providing you make your last exit and entry near the end of the years validity of the visa. The single entry visa however is valid for three months from the date of issue so you must enter the country within those three months.

The B visa is for a person who has a job offer in Thailand or a business opportunity. It works the same way as an O visa but there is no requirement to exit every 90 days providing you hold a valid work permit. Once again the B visa comes in single or multiple entries.

You can convert the O visa into a retirement visa , which is actually an extension to stay and not a visa, in Thailand, subject to certain conditions,
at your local Thai immigration office.

In order to qualify for a one year extension of stay the applicant must satisfy certain criteria and may continue to renew every year providing they still meet these requirement:
  1. Be over 50 years of age.
  2. Have 800,000 Baht in a Thai bank account or a monthly income of 65,000 Baht OR
  3. A combination of money in the bank and monthly income that = 8000,000 Baht.
  4. A valid passport
  5. Have been in the Kingdom for a continuous period of 60 days.
The application should be made at the applicants local immigration checkpoint. The applicant will need to provide the following:
  1. A completed form TM7 with photograph (4cm x 6cm).
  2. A photo-copy of each page of their passport including current departure card (TM8)
  3. Proof of financial status*
  4. 1900 Baht fee (non-refundable if application fails)
* This will either be a letter from a Thai bank showing 800,000 Baht in account (for at least 3 months) or a letter from your embassy proving income of 65,000 Baht a month. Or a combination of the two. The British Embassy in Bangkok charge 2510 Baht for this service by post, slightly cheaper if you attend in person. Banks charge around 200 baht for the letter.

The main advantage of extending your stay is that you no longer need to exit the country every 90 days (multi entry-O visa conditions) but instead you just report to your local immigration office, you can also complete this procedure by post. This saves a lot of time and money on visa runs.

However should you wish to exit and return to the Kingdom during the period of your extension then you will require a re-entry permit, 1900 Baht for a single, 3000 Baht for multi, this must be obtained from your Immigration Office before you exit and NOT at the airport. Failure to do so means you have to start the whole process again when you return to Thailand having purchased a new O visa in your own country.

So if you were a UK passport holder and left to visit Australia on holiday in theory you would have to return to the UK to get your new Thai Visa. There are however some Thai consulates in other countries like Malaysia(Penang) that will issue the relevant paperwork but its by no means guaranteed and the rules seem to change frequently.

I hope that clarifies the regulations and make it a little easier to understand Thai visa rules.


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11 comments:

Martyn said...

An excellent post full of useful information. This is one of the few times I have seen the many visa types laid out with a simple explanation to their requirements and lengths of stay. With the rock bottom UK pound there must be many Brits juggling the O visa figures to compensate their deflated monthly income. Does the over 50 part mean 51 or 50 and a day?

The TEFL Don said...

Martyn thanks. As far as I am aware the actual regs say having attained the age of 50. But remember this is Thailand. In one of my earlier posts I had a link to the police order but this is now out of date. Double check via Thai Visa forum.

On a lighter note the GBP hit 52 Baht yesterday!!! Don't change any money in UK before you come-I noticed in Jan 2009 the rates on offer were nearly 10 Baht lower than BKK.

Martyn said...

I never do change any money in rip off Britain,I change £200 of travellers on arrival at Suvarnabhumi airport. I am hoping the pound might reach 55 to the baht in time for my trip next month. Thanks for the tip anyway, I know a lot of tourists don't know about the difference between on the spot money rates and bank tourist rates. If they did then they would save a few UK pound.

Lloyd said...

I would hate to point out the obvious but one reason why there is not single source for information about Visa requirements is that every Visa, be it tourist, student, resident or whatever it is always "subject to the individual application".

Its for this reason alone that websites like "thaivisa" etc and little more than chat forums for bored expats who believe they know different.

Anonymous said...

On the visa requirements, does anybody know what happens to expats when you're under 50 years old, just been made redundant with nomore income & have less than 400,000 Bhat in a bank?

The TEFL Don said...

Anon I assume from the 400,000 you quote that you are married to a Thai and living in Thailand? If you are here is a link that clarifies the situation.

http://www.sunbeltlegaladvisors.com/Thailand-Marriage-Visa.php

Catherine said...

Darn. I wrote a comment here that seems to have gone amiss...

The short version: Hull is great.

expatudon08 said...

usefull information buddy well done i much prefer blogs then the tosh on thaivisa regards john

Thai Girl said...

Yes, an excellent summary.

I agree the comment about thaivisa. If you post an enquiry about UK visas all you get is abuse. There seem to be some self-styled experts on the forum who are outraged if you seem to have some knowlege of the system.

Andrew Hicks

Anonymous said...

5. A doctors note
6. A copy of your rental agreement
400 baht then pick up a proof of residence
paper the next day.
I believe those have to be handed in as well with the
application and the proof of income.

This is just what I've seen seeing other people
apply for retirement visa.

Canada Immigration said...

At last ! An official who can present clearly the rules, and answer to the basic questions.

Thanks !

As for your optimism regarding the fact that thai embassies will issue tourist visa, on a repeat mode, to the visa runners after their 90 days on visa exemption... I prefer to wait and see

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